Comments on: Offstumped: An Indian super-conservative blog http://blog.adarshbhat.com/2008/09/offstumped-an-indian-super-conservative-blog.html Mon, 10 May 2010 16:21:52 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Vikas http://blog.adarshbhat.com/2008/09/offstumped-an-indian-super-conservative-blog.html/comment-page-1#comment-16939 Vikas Wed, 20 Jan 2010 13:41:14 +0000 http://blog.adarshbhat.com/?p=384#comment-16939 Adarsh, The labellings and certitudes by ELM weigh so heavy on us that we are unable to analyse the things on their own merit. Only a lunatic will equate Bajrang Dal with Islamic terror. For those already sold to the ELM prognosis there is an array of choice. For the few who refuse to buy the apparently obvious politcal biases of psec ELM we have blogs such as offstumped. Adarsh,
The labellings and certitudes by ELM weigh so heavy on us that we are unable to analyse the things on their own merit. Only a lunatic will equate Bajrang Dal with Islamic terror. For those already sold to the ELM prognosis there is an array of choice. For the few who refuse to buy the apparently obvious politcal biases of psec ELM we have blogs such as offstumped.

]]> By: Yossarin http://blog.adarshbhat.com/2008/09/offstumped-an-indian-super-conservative-blog.html/comment-page-1#comment-3593 Yossarin Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:27:08 +0000 http://blog.adarshbhat.com/?p=384#comment-3593 dude this is a terror investigation not a trial. You investigate leads based on plausible causes you dont close them worrying whether the preliminary leads will hold up in a court of law. If every terror investigation were to work on this principle then there is no way in hell any case will get solved or attacks pre-empted. As far as email headers go the case is water tight dont worry about them. To your point on why this site, read their content you will understand. Looks like you have not spent any time understanding the facts or the background of the principal players in countercurrents.org. I have engaged you since you bothered to write an elaborate post on my blog. Do your homework before we engage in any further debate on this. cheers dude this is a terror investigation not a trial. You investigate leads based on plausible causes you dont close them worrying whether the preliminary leads will hold up in a court of law. If every terror investigation were to work on this principle then there is no way in hell any case will get solved or attacks pre-empted.

As far as email headers go the case is water tight dont worry about them.

To your point on why this site, read their content you will understand. Looks like you have not spent any time understanding the facts or the background of the principal players in countercurrents.org.

I have engaged you since you bothered to write an elaborate post on my blog.

Do your homework before we engage in any further debate on this.

cheers

]]> By: Adarsh Bhat http://blog.adarshbhat.com/2008/09/offstumped-an-indian-super-conservative-blog.html/comment-page-1#comment-3591 Adarsh Bhat Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:20:59 +0000 http://blog.adarshbhat.com/?p=384#comment-3591 > Doesn't in any way dilute the original question. Right, because the original question needed any more diluting. I am not familiar with the content of countercurrents.org, and don't want to take their side. But still, does that evidence seem convincing to you? Would that hold up in a court of law? First off, the fact that the email originated from dreamhost cannot be proved by looking at the email headers. Even if I give that to you, it is impossible to lay the blame square on one website hosted by dreamhost, when the very page you linked to says that dreamhost hosts 30,000 odd other websites. Third, after your allegation, they simply claimed to have been hacked. End of story! Your charge moved from 'you help terrorists' to 'who hacked you'. > Doesn’t in any way dilute the original question.

Right, because the original question needed any more diluting. I am not familiar with the content of countercurrents.org, and don’t want to take their side. But still, does that evidence seem convincing to you? Would that hold up in a court of law?

First off, the fact that the email originated from dreamhost cannot be proved by looking at the email headers.

Even if I give that to you, it is impossible to lay the blame square on one website hosted by dreamhost, when the very page you linked to says that dreamhost hosts 30,000 odd other websites.

Third, after your allegation, they simply claimed to have been hacked. End of story!

Your charge moved from ‘you help terrorists’ to ‘who hacked you’.

]]> By: Yossarin http://blog.adarshbhat.com/2008/09/offstumped-an-indian-super-conservative-blog.html/comment-page-1#comment-3589 Yossarin Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:52:08 +0000 http://blog.adarshbhat.com/?p=384#comment-3589 adarsh - to your first point, i have addresed the issue of violence multiple times read the flat world hindutva posts and posts on calls for hindu suicide bombers, dont see a need to issue a criticism everytime the media cries hoarse on something to your second point on countercurrents.org where is the contradiction. The questions still remain on a potential nexus between the email from dreamhost and and "someone at countercurrents". The second post merely points out that the editor reported a hacking incident. Doesnt in any way dilute the original question. adarsh – to your first point, i have addresed the issue of violence multiple times read the flat world hindutva posts and posts on calls for hindu suicide bombers, dont see a need to issue a criticism everytime the media cries hoarse on something

to your second point on countercurrents.org where is the contradiction. The questions still remain on a potential nexus between the email from dreamhost and and “someone at countercurrents”. The second post merely points out that the editor reported a hacking incident. Doesnt in any way dilute the original question.

]]> By: Adarsh Bhat http://blog.adarshbhat.com/2008/09/offstumped-an-indian-super-conservative-blog.html/comment-page-1#comment-3588 Adarsh Bhat Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:47:29 +0000 http://blog.adarshbhat.com/?p=384#comment-3588 Thanks. I shall read those and get back to you. In the mean time, I would like to address your remark that I have made a sweeping generalization without pointing to anything specific. (1) In the post above, I have pointed out that you have quietly taken the side of Bajrang Dal, given that you have blamed others of being apologists for Islam very often. Are you not being a Bajrang Dal apologist? The fact that you have not written much about the incidents themselves can be overlooked. After all, I can't blame you for _not_ having written something. But it is still conspicuous due to its absence. (2) I have also pointed to the incident that involves countercurrents.org. You make a claim with very shaky, almost non-existent evidence, and contradict yourself in the next post with your head held high. What is your claim to credibility in your future allegations? Thanks. I shall read those and get back to you.

In the mean time, I would like to address your remark that I have made a sweeping generalization without pointing to anything specific.

(1) In the post above, I have pointed out that you have quietly taken the side of Bajrang Dal, given that you have blamed others of being apologists for Islam very often. Are you not being a Bajrang Dal apologist? The fact that you have not written much about the incidents themselves can be overlooked. After all, I can’t blame you for _not_ having written something. But it is still conspicuous due to its absence.

(2) I have also pointed to the incident that involves countercurrents.org. You make a claim with very shaky, almost non-existent evidence, and contradict yourself in the next post with your head held high. What is your claim to credibility in your future allegations?

]]> By: Yossarin http://blog.adarshbhat.com/2008/09/offstumped-an-indian-super-conservative-blog.html/comment-page-1#comment-3584 Yossarin Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:19:31 +0000 http://blog.adarshbhat.com/?p=384#comment-3584 Dont care about western labels of liveral or conservative. You can read my posts on Flat World Hindutva and Dharma under the dharma-debates category to better appreciate my moral compass to understand the how, why and what of the stances I take on issues. In general I am for responsible exercise of freedom and national interest with Dharma as the moral guide. You can also specifically read my criticisms on "progressive liberalism" to better understand the fundamental differences with what I describe as ideologies of victimhood and guilt. Dont care about western labels of liveral or conservative. You can read my posts on Flat World Hindutva and Dharma under the dharma-debates category to better appreciate my moral compass to understand the how, why and what of the stances I take on issues. In general I am for responsible exercise of freedom and national interest with Dharma as the moral guide. You can also specifically read my criticisms on “progressive liberalism” to better understand the fundamental differences with what I describe as ideologies of victimhood and guilt.

]]> By: Adarsh Bhat http://blog.adarshbhat.com/2008/09/offstumped-an-indian-super-conservative-blog.html/comment-page-1#comment-3583 Adarsh Bhat Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:16:22 +0000 http://blog.adarshbhat.com/?p=384#comment-3583 I equated "right of centre" with conservative. Please correct me if I am wrong. Do you claim to be liberal? I equated “right of centre” with conservative. Please correct me if I am wrong. Do you claim to be liberal?

]]> By: Yossarin http://blog.adarshbhat.com/2008/09/offstumped-an-indian-super-conservative-blog.html/comment-page-1#comment-3582 Yossarin Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:11:28 +0000 http://blog.adarshbhat.com/?p=384#comment-3582 One more point , dont ever recollect having described myself as a conservative :) One more point , dont ever recollect having described myself as a conservative :)

]]> By: Yossarin http://blog.adarshbhat.com/2008/09/offstumped-an-indian-super-conservative-blog.html/comment-page-1#comment-3581 Yossarin Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:10:49 +0000 http://blog.adarshbhat.com/?p=384#comment-3581 Adarsh - Thanks for the feedback, would appreciate specific points of concern rather than sweeping generalizations. Keep visiting. Adarsh – Thanks for the feedback, would appreciate specific points of concern rather than sweeping generalizations. Keep visiting.

]]> By: Aditya Kavoor http://blog.adarshbhat.com/2008/09/offstumped-an-indian-super-conservative-blog.html/comment-page-1#comment-3575 Aditya Kavoor Wed, 24 Sep 2008 06:24:35 +0000 http://blog.adarshbhat.com/?p=384#comment-3575 You would like to see the movie 'A Wednesday'. Its the best hindi movie I have seen in recent times. Its mostly based on how a common man fights terror and finally wins. You will not repent you 2hrs watching that movie. You would like to see the movie ‘A Wednesday’. Its the best hindi movie I have seen in recent times. Its mostly based on how a common man fights terror and finally wins. You will not repent you 2hrs watching that movie.

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